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Topic: Invisalign Braces
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pat unregistered
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posted 09-17-2004 08:26 PM
I am in the process of getting Invisalign braces and I am afraid I have not done my homework on them. Does anyone know how inconvenient it is to wear them and also to remove them in order to eat? I understand that you hve to brush and floss your teeth before putting the braces back on after eating. I would appreciate commnets from anyone who has gone thru the process. I am still able to back out of the Invisalign (at a cost) and go the traditional braces route but then again I don't think I want to do that.
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Jeffrey L. Wissot, DDS unregistered
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posted 09-17-2004 09:01 PM
Here are a couple of additional consideartions...The most difficult task is remember to put them back in your mouth after eating, especially in a restaurant -- some patients forget & they get tossed out when the table is cleared. You must also be patient: Treatment does take longer than conventional orthodontics.
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Jane unregistered
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posted 09-21-2004 03:09 PM
I myself looked into them, but was told that you really need to be discipline about putting them back in and when to change them. Also, my dentist recommended that I go the traditional way, since he has had some older patients who had them and had some bone problems afterwards. He felt that the movement of the teeth were not watched as closely the way the traditional method is.I am 46 and decided to take his advice and get the regular braces a week ago. Not too bad, still need time to get use to.
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debi unregistered
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posted 10-09-2004 09:56 PM
I will be getting invisaligns soon. Going for my molds this Tuesday. I also thought I may have made the wrong decision and spoke with the Ortho about switching to regular braces, possibly clear. They convinced me to stay with the invisaligns. The problems I heard were that the invisaligns are painful when replaced, especially when you are changing to a new set (which makes sense). But the worst is that it's very easy to take them out and leave them out. I heard that after a while you leave them out longer and for more reasons, such as leaving them at home when you are going out to dinner, or to the movies, so you can eat popcorn, etc. In the end, the invisaligns don't work because you haven't worn them enough. My dentist's assistant told me she had invisalign but took them out one day and just never put them back in. I'm worried because I will need them for two (or longer) years. I can see myself slacking off. But the cost of these darn things should make me replace them! Have you started wearing yours yet? I'd love to hear more from people already wearing them. Thanks, debi
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Chuck unregistered
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posted 10-18-2004 02:35 PM
I am on day 3 of invisalign and I have had a nightmare of a start. I am not sure how much to blame on Invisalign and how much to blame on my dentist. My first day of wearing Invisalign, I thought it was very easy and was surprised how little it impeded my speech. Until 3 hours later when I tried taking them off before a business dinner. I sat in the bathroom of the restaurant trying to take them off and couldn't! My nails bent backwards and gums were bleeding trying. I called my dentist in a panic (who blew me off until the next day). I couldn't eat dinner with the invisalign on and, the worst part, had to tell my business colleagues why I couldn't eat with them (sort of defeats the purpose of Invisalign now...). The next day, when I went to see my dentist, he laughed and tried to pull it out. He did wrestle it out (pretending to do it effortlessly) but it even took him a couple of minutes and I swear I thought he was going to break it or pull out my front teeth with it. I have since learned to take it out on my own, but it still takes me on average 2 minutes to take them out (with paper towel). It's too late to turn back on the expensive commitment, but I would have thought twice had I known how difficult this would be. My dentist claims that no one has had problems taking them out and that I'm being too "tender" - but if I could video tape how it looks when even he tries to take it out of my mouth, anyone could see that this is anything but easy. I may be a unique case, but as my dentist said, my teeth are not that crooked (I had braces when I was younger but it got crowded upon my wisdom teeth coming in) and if I'm having these problems, I've got to imagine I am not the only one. Please be careful and be selective about the dentist/orthodontist you choose. I am writing Invisalign a letter of complaint and inquiry about their procedures (or lack thereof) for allowing Invisalign practitioners. My dentist, for example, didn't even have me try to take off my trays on my own before I walked out the first day.
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Mon unregistered
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posted 10-19-2004 11:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by Chuck: I am on day 3 of invisalign and I have had a nightmare of a start. I am not sure how much to blame on Invisalign and how much to blame on my dentist. My first day of wearing Invisalign, I thought it was very easy and was surprised how little it impeded my speech. Until 3 hours later when I tried taking them off before a business dinner. I sat in the bathroom of the restaurant trying to take them off and couldn't! My nails bent backwards and gums were bleeding trying. I called my dentist in a panic (who blew me off until the next day). I couldn't eat dinner with the invisalign on and, the worst part, had to tell my business colleagues why I couldn't eat with them (sort of defeats the purpose of Invisalign now...). The next day, when I went to see my dentist, he laughed and tried to pull it out. He did wrestle it out (pretending to do it effortlessly) but it even took him a couple of minutes and I swear I thought he was going to break it or pull out my front teeth with it. I have since learned to take it out on my own, but it still takes me on average 2 minutes to take them out (with paper towel). It's too late to turn back on the expensive commitment, but I would have thought twice had I known how difficult this would be. My dentist claims that no one has had problems taking them out and that I'm being too "tender" - but if I could video tape how it looks when even he tries to take it out of my mouth, anyone could see that this is anything but easy. I may be a unique case, but as my dentist said, my teeth are not that crooked (I had braces when I was younger but it got crowded upon my wisdom teeth coming in) and if I'm having these problems, I've got to imagine I am not the only one. Please be careful and be selective about the dentist/orthodontist you choose. I am writing Invisalign a letter of complaint and inquiry about their procedures (or lack thereof) for allowing Invisalign practitioners. My dentist, for example, didn't even have me try to take off my trays on my own before I walked out the first day.
Hi Chuck, I had the same experience as you. It took me the whole night to take it off on the 1st day. I even took the 2nd day off work, because I was so worried what's going to happen at work with the aligners on ..... I had the feeling I would take my whole teeth out. I am so surprised that Invisalign company doesn't provide some kind of tools to take the tray out of mouth?
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Angie unregistered
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posted 10-19-2004 06:34 PM
I am on week 3 of my first tray of Invisalign. (I ws told to wear it for an extra week) The first two weeks it was difficult to take them out, but it gets easier as you wear each tray longer. However, today I just got "attachments" on two of my bottom teeth which is supposed to help them move more inside the tray. This makes the tray tighter and much more difficult to remove on the bottom. I find that using a paper towel on my fingers and trying to pull them off from the back is the way to do it. I will be trying to grow my thumb nails stronger to take care of this task also. As far as remembering to put them back in - so far I think I am doing ok at keeping to the only having them out 2-hours-a-day rule and try to keep my eating times as short as possible. This is keeping me from eating between meals pretty effectively, but I do feel like I am a bit rushed when I do eat a meal. Hurry and eat and get them back in!!
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pat unregistered
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posted 10-19-2004 07:46 PM
i received my invisalign braces 4 days ago. they do not hurt and they are easy for me to remove. my concern is that i don't feel any pressure on my teeth. how will my teeth move if they are not under pressure? I am very concerned about this since I don't want to wear them for a year and have nothing to show for it. I would appreciate it if a dentist would reply to this. I called my dentist and asked him and he said that it was good that I didn't have any pain and that the process was very gentle. I am very suspect, again, because how can my teeth move without pressure? My dentist told me my procedure should take about a year.
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Mon unregistered
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posted 10-20-2004 01:47 PM
I was told there will be sore for about 2 days at the beginning of each new set of trays. I had very strong sore on my back teeth for the 1st few days of my 1st set, not front teeth. I am wonder too if the front teeth are not moving?????
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pat unregistered
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posted 10-21-2004 05:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by Angie: I am on week 3 of my first tray of Invisalign. (I ws told to wear it for an extra week) The first two weeks it was difficult to take them out, but it gets easier as you wear each tray longer. However, today I just got "attachments" on two of my bottom teeth which is supposed to help them move more inside the tray. This makes the tray tighter and much more difficult to remove on the bottom. I find that using a paper towel on my fingers and trying to pull them off from the back is the way to do it. I will be trying to grow my thumb nails stronger to take care of this task also. As far as remembering to put them back in - so far I think I am doing ok at keeping to the only having them out 2-hours-a-day rule and try to keep my eating times as short as possible. This is keeping me from eating between meals pretty effectively, but I do feel like I am a bit rushed when I do eat a meal. Hurry and eat and get them back in!!
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pat unregistered
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posted 10-21-2004 05:57 AM
[QUOTE]Angie: Did you feel any pressure on your teeth when you received your first set of aligners? I don't feel any pressure at all.
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Invisalign unregistered
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posted 10-22-2004 02:35 AM
Okay, now I'm worried! I think I'll be getting my trays right before Thanksgiving. I had no idea they were "that" difficult to remove. yikes! I suppose I should be happy that most likely I'll lose weight. I'd like to ask everyone, how long did it take between the time you had your invisalign molds made and receiving your trays? Did anyone get rejected at first. They took my bottom mold twice because the tech said if it wasn't perfect, it would be rejected. This meant redoing the mold and sending it in to wait another 8 weeks. Can anyone tell me what a "button" is? Nervous, Debi
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pat unregistered
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posted 10-22-2004 07:12 AM
Debbie: It took a long time for me to get my trays - and my bottom tray had to be done over since they didn't get a good impression the first time. I think a "button" is the attachment that is glued on your teeth to help keep the trays (in my case the uppper tray) in place.
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eric unregistered
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posted 10-24-2004 10:19 AM
I am currently on my 5th aligner, and I am very pleased with the process so far. I'll admit, my first aligner was the worst. It hurt for about a week, and taking it out felt like I was going to break a few teeth, but now, the worst part is just the first couple of days of a new aligner. On those days I try to keep them in as much as possible and that seems to help. I am scheduled to only have them on for 8 months. I was shocked as I thought it would take a lot longer. I think I will be very pleased with the process, and I hope that when everything is done I don't have to where one everyday so my teeth don't move!!
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Lisa unregistered
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posted 10-29-2004 01:58 PM
I would recommend going with Invisalign because honestly, no one notices them. The only reason someone "knew" I had them in was because I told them. I thought that people would notice the slur in my speech but it was just me being self-conscious.You WILL have slurred speech (s sounds and th sounds will be weird -- like a slight lisp) for about a week. But once your tongue and mouth get used to the aligners in your mouth, your speech will sound normal. You will THINK it does not sound normal but just ask your friends (the ones you trust) to tell you. I still think my speech is slurred (I'm on week 3) but it's actually not as bad as I think. As for pressure -- when you first get your aligners in, make sure your ortho teaches you and WATCHES you take them in and out. This will help the process a lot. Do NOT eat crunchy hard foods the first few days the aligners are in (i.e., apples, carrots, etc.) because your teeth will feel sensitive. I take out my top aligners by using my left hand, middle finger and reaching back on the left side of my mouth -- way in the back. That's the quickest way to get the top ones out. For my bottom aligners, I use my left hand thumb -- reach back in the back of the aligner (left side) and pry up the aligner. The first few times you take them out, your teeth will feel strange -- it feels as if your teeth will be coming out with the aligners because you are not used to something so constricting on your teeth. DO NOT WORRY -- it goes away. On day 2 of my treatment I seriously thought I wasn't cut out for the sensation but it goes away once you get used to taking them in and out. You will get so used to it that you won't even need a mirror to put the aligners back in. Regarding pressure -- I think it's different for everyone, but there is a weird sensation in your mouth (from having the aligners in) and your teeth (from moving). Some people just pop some Advil in right when they changes aligners (every two weeks or so) and then go to sleep. The first day or two after changing an aligner (which I've done once so far) will be the tightest but then the aligners will feel looser because your teeth will have adjusted. In any case -- the key is finding a great orthodontist who will help you with your questions and concerns. My dentist and his assistant were such sweethearts -- answering all my stupid questions and concerns. Good luck!
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Angela unregistered
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posted 10-29-2004 05:59 PM
I get used to the aligners now. I don't feel anything for top one, but I can feel the bottom one. I can see from the aligners that the top one is very accurately trimmed, but bottom one is not. People can notice I wear braces, since I have bumps on all my front teeth, and color is whiter than my teeth (I guess the technician didn't do a good job selecting a matching color)....
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micky unregistered
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posted 11-15-2004 11:17 PM
I got my quote on Invisalign last month. It's $6700 for both my upper and bottom teeth. The treatment will be 12 months. Is it a normal price? I am wondering how much you guys spend on it? Wait for your reponse. Thanks.
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Angela unregistered
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posted 11-16-2004 05:30 PM
Mine is mid $7000.
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James unregistered
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posted 11-18-2004 09:18 AM
I'm in Washington, D.C. and mine cost $5400. I'm in the 10th week and have had no problems. Sometimes new aligners are tight and difficult to remove, but they ease up after awhile. The tightness means that they are really gripping your teeth, resulting in good movement. Its not a bad thing, just a nuisance.
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L unregistered
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posted 11-30-2004 08:49 PM
I got mine in Houston and for 12 months it was $4100 -- top and bottom, 22 aligners each.
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invisi-grrl unregistered
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posted 12-04-2004 11:36 PM
I've had my aligners for about 11 months now!!! I'm on #25 out of 26 (for my uppers). My lowers only had 9 aligners. I can't believe I'm almost done! (with some possible "fine tuning")My first set of aligners were also not very very tight. I did feel slight pressure, but had no problems taking ANY of my aligners out. ***The teeth usually start moving in the back of the month, then during the final stages of treatment, the front teeth start moving. That's when it gets exciting!!! (but a bit more painful). This is opposite to conventional braces where the front teeth move first. I'm quite happy so far. I have 2 attachments on my left lower (that can barely be seen). Almost done!!!!
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Lena unregistered
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posted 12-16-2004 02:47 AM
Boy, do I know how you feel. My dentist didn't tell me anything about these horrible things except that they're invisible and that supposedly I needed them to straighten my teeth. I walked out of the office wearing them without any explanation of how to take them off. They didn't even come with a pamphlet! My dentist used some sort of metal tool to take them in and out. First time I had to get them out, it took me something like half an hour and a few tears. Taking them off still hurts like *hell*. This is only day 2 so I suppose that's expected. Still, I wish somebody had told me about this, given as how I'm gonna have to live with 9 months of taking them in and out three times a day. I have a tender tooth from some root canal a long time ago that's always hurt when I pushed back or forth on it. And now it's constantly being pushed backwards. Owwwww... Well, I guess there's at least the benefit of losing some weight with these hellish things, given that you can't snack with them and I don't generally have time to eat full regular meals. Sure wish somebody had warned me about that little caveat too... I am not very happy with my dentist at the moment
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Angela unregistered
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posted 12-17-2004 01:19 PM
Lena, I feel your pain and frustration. I had the same problem. After I got my #1 aligners, I had to extract one molar because of the pain, so I am not very happy with my ortho either on this(he should've told me to extract the bad tooth before the treatment even started). It took me the whole night to take off #1 aligners!!! Now things are getting better, I am on #6, the 1st day is always very tight, taking them off can cause pain, so I even don't try to take them off, I skipped the 1st's meals by taking protein shake. I can easily take them off on the 2nd day without any pain. Just some suggestion, hope it is helpful. quote: Originally posted by Lena: Boy, do I know how you feel. My dentist didn't tell me anything about these horrible things except that they're invisible and that supposedly I needed them to straighten my teeth. I walked out of the office wearing them without any explanation of how to take them off. They didn't even come with a pamphlet! My dentist used some sort of metal tool to take them in and out. First time I had to get them out, it took me something like half an hour and a few tears. Taking them off still hurts like *hell*. This is only day 2 so I suppose that's expected. Still, I wish somebody had told me about this, given as how I'm gonna have to live with 9 months of taking them in and out three times a day. I have a tender tooth from some root canal a long time ago that's always hurt when I pushed back or forth on it. And now it's constantly being pushed backwards. Owwwww... Well, I guess there's at least the benefit of losing some weight with these hellish things, given that you can't snack with them and I don't generally have time to eat full regular meals. Sure wish somebody had warned me about that little caveat too... I am not very happy with my dentist at the moment
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Pete unregistered
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posted 12-30-2004 04:09 PM
Hello,I have just completed my invisalign treatment and i have been wearing the invisalign braces for two years. I didnt find any problem and the teeth moved precisely until the last few braces. I wouldnt call it as a perfect solution because the final teeth position is slightly different from what i envisioned. But i am so happy to not wear the stupid braces anymore.
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Jeffrey L. Wissot, DDS unregistered
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posted 12-30-2004 06:33 PM
Pete,I hope you have discussed, and follow your dentist's or orthodontist's recommendations on long term retention to preclude a relapse.
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Stephanie unregistered
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posted 01-26-2005 07:36 PM
If I may ask, what types of problems are you wearing the aligners for? Spaces, incorrect bites, something else? How big are the spaces and how long do they take to close up?
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Jeffrey L. Wissot, DDS unregistered
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posted 01-26-2005 08:37 PM
Every case differs. It's important that you establish complete communication with your orthodontist (good advice for all health care professionals). Don't ever hesitate to ask!
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Invisalign Wearer unregistered
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posted 01-31-2005 03:06 PM
I too had my doubts, but I have a friend who is going through the metal braces and I think I am way better off. The first set is a bear to get on and off but within a day it gets way better and my dentist gave me a tool he called a smiley. It helps a lot in the removal! It's shaped like a smile and basically a crochet hook on both sides. I only take mine out three times and day (wear time 20 to 22.5 hours) so it has cut down on my snacking which to me is a good thing. However with metal braces you have to restrict what you eat so I'd much rather have the invisligns compared to that. Also, not much office time, I go about every four weeks and I'm basically in and out. I would recommend taking an advil right after or even before every new set however this is no different then haveing wires tightened on metal braces. Yes, I would recommend invisible braces any day to the person who is commited to straigtening their teeth. If your lazy and not as committed then go for the very present metal braces, but they too cause a lisp at first and hurt and restrict your diet.
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Lien unregistered
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posted 02-04-2005 11:51 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by micky: I got my quote on Invisalign last month. It's $6700 for both my upper and bottom teeth. The treatment will be 12 months. Is it a normal price? I am wondering how much you guys spend on it? Wait for your reponse. Thanks.[/Q]My treatment will be 18-24 months and it's a $5000 flat rate for everything: molding, the trays, the follow-up visits, and retainer. I'm located in New Orleans, so that might make a difference?
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Lien unregistered
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posted 02-04-2005 12:04 PM
My two front teeth aren't midline to my face-actually about 3 mm away from it...I forgot to mention it to my invisalign orthodontist when he did the intitial check, he wasn't very thorough in the first place, at least compared to another orthodontist I got a quote from...I don't remember if my front teeth move much on my "clin-check"...is it too late to ask my orthodontist if he overlooked it? The office has recieved my trays, I have an appointment to get them in a few days.
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Elizabeth unregistered
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posted 02-04-2005 04:59 PM
I am on my second tray. I had a tough time getting use to them. My tongue was a bit irritated. I just took them out for a while and then tried again. My dentist gave me some was that they use for metal braces. I put a small amount over the tray edges until my mouth got use to them. When I went to my second tray, it took me about a day and 1/2 to get used to them. I am on my second week and I don't even notice them. My lips and mouth are not as dry. I don't have an issue talking. It does keep me away from snacking. I only drink water with them on which is a good thing. If I have a meeting where I need to talk, I just pop them out. I always brush after meals anyway.
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Invisi-boy, UK unregistered
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posted 02-17-2005 04:23 PM
Hi, This is my account of the invisalign braces. I'm a 24 year-old male in England. Cost £3500. 1 Year plan.I'd like to let this forum know how pleased I ‘ve been on the invisalign program, as well as offering some advice from my experience. I'm now on my 24th of 25 aligners. Invisalign is amazing. I can't recommend it enough to anyone who wishes they had straighter teeth. I paid in full, privately with my orthodontist - it's the best thing I've ever bought! I'd do it all again in a flash. Intially, I was worried about getting the appliance in and out - but you soon figure out which side to twist and pull to remove it. You are definitely the best person to do this, even at the dentist. The last 5 aligners simply go on and off with complete ease. Although I'm due a new brace every Friday morning, I find putting a new one in on a thursday evening (after dinner) and sleeping with it for 10-12hours before having to remove it helps with getting the teeth into the next position. A quick 10mins breakfast and back in. Within 24hrs they don't even feel tight. I used to take a paracetamol/panadol at night to help ease the pain and get to sleep in the early braces. On average I was getting 21-23 hours a day with my first 12 braces, but since then I've become lazy and get about 19-21 hours a day. I think you soon figure out how long to have your appliances out for depending on how tight they are when you put them back in. Since then, I've become quite lazy, and often eat soft foods such as bananas on bike rides with the braces in, along with a soup here and there to keep warm. As long as I clean my teeth asap, I figure it doesn't really do any damage. I've been using a whitening toothpaste and whitening floss throughout the treatment too, (this isn’t bleach) and I've noticed my teeth are always squeaky clean with three flosses and cleans a day. My orthodontist also recommended a daily rinse of fluoride helps. I can’t recommend enough the importance of a good flossing. The worst parts… were always in the actual orthodontists chair, such as having with teeth shaved with a diamond tipped rasp! That thing hurt. And getting the actual moulds made up. The only downfall of actually wearing these braces is bad breath! You need to drink water all the time. I’m really, really paranoid about it and tend to keep clear of people in small spaces. I have found sugar-free mints such as Smint really help. But there's nothing better than a quick trip to the toilet and wash your mouth out with water, or even better mouthwash. And that's about it – I am really, really happy with the treatment. I have a movie, which I'll happily post once it's on webspace somewhere. I have to say theses things are not to be missed - if you can, have them fitted. Cheers and good luck!
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SG unregistered
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posted 03-05-2005 02:19 PM
I'm a 26 year old female, and I just got my second set of aligners. The bottom ones don't hurt at all, only a little when I put them in! I'm worried they are not even working. Aren't they ALWAYS supposed to hurt?
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Invisi-boy, UK unregistered
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posted 03-07-2005 07:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by SG: I'm a 26 year old female, and I just got my second set of aligners. The bottom ones don't hurt at all, only a little when I put them in! I'm worried they are not even working. Aren't they ALWAYS supposed to hurt?
Quite often I would find that several braces weren't tight at all - I think as long as they fit your teeth snugly then you can trust your treatment program. If you have concerns - just ask your orthodontist. Good luck - you'll be really pleased.
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Kathleen unregistered
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posted 03-08-2005 08:09 AM
I am interested in the hook mentioned in the post below: (my dentist gave me a tool he called a smiley. It helps a lot in the removal! It's shaped like a smile and basically a crochet hook on both sides) I have just started wearing invisalign and am having trouble removing them. My nails aren't strong enough. Is it actually a crochet hook and where would I purchase one? Thanks.
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