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Topic: Invisalign Braces
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Kimbob
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posted 09-13-2005 01:34 PM
Pharmgirl - you rock! Great response and my guess is that you are right on.[QUOTE]Originally posted by pharmgirl:
....I know enough REAL bodybuilers to know that they don't spend all of their time in bars drinking. It ruins all of your efforts and messes up your blood sugar. Duh. Now on the OTHER hand, I've seen PLENTY of posers who like to pick up extra heavy weights, grunt out a couple of reps and throw the weights onto the floor like they are too heavy to put down. THOSE guys spend plenty of time greased up at the bars. Wonder which one you might be?
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ROBINCT
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posted 09-13-2005 09:04 PM
Johnathan, relax. You seem a bit uptight and a little annoyed. If wearing your aligners for 16-18 hours/day works for you, good for you. If somebody chooses to follow their Orthodontist's recommendation about wearing the aligners for 21 hours or greater works, then that is good too. Nobody is right or wrong here, given what works for them, but be careful. What appears to "work" now, may prove to be a wasted venture later. Think about it. You said your aligners hardly ever hurt you. Consider the analogy that the pain induced by wearing one's aligners is like the pain after a good workout. You know the difference between "good" pain and one that isn't. Perhaps movement is not occuring if you're not feeling pain. Just a thought. As for your other comments regarding working out. It seems a little harsh to say that women don't know the "pain" of working out nor the considerable stress involved. I will remind you that women and only women give birth...a pain you probably cannot fathom. So, please be mindful of those who view this site. We are trying to educate...disspell myths, not create falsehoods ideas. Best wishes to a healthy smile, body, and spirit.Smiles to all!
ROBINCT
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MELINCT
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posted 09-14-2005 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by ROBINCT:
Johnathan, relax. You seem a bit uptight and a little annoyed. If wearing your aligners for 16-18 hours/day works for you, good for you. If somebody chooses to follow their Orthodontist's recommendation about wearing the aligners for 21 hours or greater works, then that is good too. Nobody is right or wrong here, given what works for them, but be careful. What appears to "work" now, may prove to be a wasted venture later. Think about it. You said your aligners hardly ever hurt you. Consider the analogy that the pain induced by wearing one's aligners is like the pain after a good workout. You know the difference between "good" pain and one that isn't. Perhaps movement is not occuring if you're not feeling pain. Just a thought. As for your other comments regarding working out. It seems a little harsh to say that women don't know the "pain" of working out nor the considerable stress involved. I will remind you that women and only women give birth...a pain you probably cannot fathom. So, please be mindful of those who view this site. We are trying to educate...disspell myths, not create falsehoods ideas. Best wishes to a healthy smile, body, and spirit.Smiles to all!
ROBINCT
Excellent response ROBINCT! Jonathan really needs to start listening to his orthodontist! If he doesn't it will be his loss (of teeth). Oh, and ROBINCT, if you are who I think you are, I'll be seeing you soon!
Have a great day everybody! MELINCT
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Sarah
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posted 09-15-2005 11:05 AM
I just got mine yesterday! The trays came in after 3 1/2 weeks. 4000.00 dollars. I am in them for one year. I get the ZOOM whitening after the year. Does everyone get this?
I do NOT like the buttons. They stand out like a sore thumb or like bubbles in the tray. I look like Im wearing a football mouth guard. I have top and bottom.
I wanted to drink a daquiri last night and I did. I got them yesterday. Right after I did, I took them out and rinsed with mouthwash and put them back in. I cant take them out every time I drink a drink, but I can take them out to rinse after a snack or drink. I am going to talk to the dentist. The pain isnt very nice and my lips are dry. 
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Sarah
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posted 09-15-2005 05:41 PM
oh and they say you can get a permanent retainer at the end of everything if you want. you just have to pay extra.
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Ray
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posted 09-15-2005 05:45 PM
Hi all, after reading your posts, I am getting confident about Invisalign. Now I have decided to try invisalign myself and would like to know which orthodontist to go for in the DC metro area (NOVA). Does anyone have any suggestions? I would like to know the average costs as well. I am looking at atleast 2 years of treatment which includes 3 tooth extractions (I had one consultation so far and he is charging me approx $8000 incl. diagnostics for treatment). Also please give me an estimate of how much the tooth extraction costs would be. Would really appreciate your replies. Thanks!
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Rosanna
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posted 09-15-2005 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by Sarah:
oh and they say you can get a permanent retainer at the end of everything if you want. you just have to pay extra.
Yes, that's right. As part of my Invisalign treatment with my ortho I have to wear a permenant retainer for at least a year afterwards. They are small tooth coloured metal strips holding together both the top and bottom front 4 teeth, but behind the teeth so you cannot see them. I think that's a good idea myself and you can keep them in for life if you want.
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Glitter Star
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posted 09-16-2005 08:29 AM
Ok I am alil worried now. I am set to get mine in a month or so. My son and husband saw boxers on t.v. and were joking saying hey there's mom's invisaligns. I hope it doesn't look like that for real. I am also concerned about my final impressions on Monday. The first ones made me feel wierd when tring to breathe , Just the top ones. The bottums were easy. How did anyone else feel when doing the impressions.
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Nick
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posted 09-16-2005 12:37 PM
The buttons bothered me at first too - I felt they were very noticeable but other people have told me they still can't tell there is anything in my mouth. In regards to the drink - I do the same thing. I'll go out and have drinks and just make sure to not swish it around my mouth (which I wouldn't do anyway) and I'll have a glass of water between each drink to help rinse it out and then I make sure to brush my teeth and aligners really good when I get home. It works out fine.
The pain will go away - trust me and the dryness goes away too. I was drinking water like there was no tomorrow when I first had them - now I forget they are in half the time. You get very used to them - it just takes a while.
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Originally posted by Sarah:
I just got mine yesterday! The trays came in after 3 1/2 weeks. 4000.00 dollars. I am in them for one year. I get the ZOOM whitening after the year. Does everyone get this?
I do NOT like the buttons. They stand out like a sore thumb or like bubbles in the tray. I look like Im wearing a football mouth guard. I have top and bottom.
I wanted to drink a daquiri last night and I did. I got them yesterday. Right after I did, I took them out and rinsed with mouthwash and put them back in. I cant take them out every time I drink a drink, but I can take them out to rinse after a snack or drink. I am going to talk to the dentist. The pain isnt very nice and my lips are dry.
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Kimbob
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posted 09-16-2005 04:24 PM
Glitter Star,
The aligners aren't nearly as obvious as a boxer's mouth guard. It is true that if you have to have attachments (also called buttons) on your front top teeth, it makes your aligners somewhat more obvious. However, they're still not as apparent as any of the traditional braces. Tell the person doing your impressions about your concerns. There may be something they can do to make it easier for you. I didn't experience the same type of difficulty breathing that you did, but you may have a strong gag reflex. Or they may have used an impression tray that is too large for your mouth. Also, try to remain relaxed because if you are panicky, that will certainly increase the feeling of difficulty breathing.
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Jay
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posted 09-16-2005 05:46 PM
Forget Jonathan's bodybuilding...it's nail strengthening I need. My thumbnails have broken so many times trying to get my lower aligners out, and I'm only on my second one!!
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Glitter Star
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posted 09-16-2005 06:34 PM
thanks for the advice KimBob I will try to remain calm. Everything they have done so far with the dental work I needed done I keep telling myself it's all for the end product. I want it so bad that I am willing do what's needed.
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Richi
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posted 09-16-2005 07:52 PM
I'm on my 11th aligners currently and I'm wondering what type of cleaning should I be getting from my general dentist? Is it the same scaling procedure I had to endure prior to the braces OR is it just your run of the mill regular tartar scraping, polishing, routine? Thanks 
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Glitter Star
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posted 09-16-2005 09:31 PM
Hey Richie, I had to get all that unbearable scaling done, First the debridment, I went without any numbing stuff. Can anyone say OUCH!!!!! Then the scaling. I have to do polishing Monday with my final impressions.
I am glad all the hard stuff is over. All my pics and x-rays are done so should be down hill from here.
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pharmgirl
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posted 09-18-2005 09:47 AM
As far the the retainer goes, I was told that I'd just need to wear a retainer at night (forever, I think) and it was included in the price. An extra bonus was that the dentist said she could have it made to double as a Night Guard since I have a tendancy to clench.
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Katheryn
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posted 09-18-2005 05:05 PM
Jane, In my opinion (from experience) I feel that you have made a very wise decision!
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Katy
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posted 09-18-2005 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by Jane:
I myself looked into them, but was told that you really need to be discipline about putting them back in and when to change them. Also, my dentist recommended that I go the traditional way, since he has had some older patients who had them and had some bone problems afterwards. He felt that the movement of the teeth were not watched as closely the way the traditional method is.I am 46 and decided to take his advice and get the regular braces a week ago. Not too bad, still need time to get use to.
Jane, In my opinion (from experience) I feel that you have made a very wise decision!
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Jay
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posted 09-19-2005 10:14 AM
Katheryn...can we ask what the experience was that made you agree with Jane's decision? quote:
Originally posted by Katheryn:
Jane, In my opinion (from experience) I feel that you have made a very wise decision!
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Dennis
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posted 09-19-2005 01:05 PM
Hi...can anyone recomend a good Ortho or dentist in the Virginia Beach area for invisalign. I had braces as a kid, didn't wear my retainer, etc, etc.
Thanks a lot for any help
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Toothbrush
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posted 09-19-2005 01:34 PM
After reading all the great posts I am wondering why so many had a "final" impression done? I only had one impression for my invisalign. Is it normal to have several impressions done for invisalign?
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bp
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posted 09-19-2005 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by Catrina:
Has anyone had any experience with Invisalign Express?
I am thinking about getting Invisalign Express. After reading the comments, I am going to think about it for few more months. Mainly, I did not realized how diffcult it might be to take them out. I only had a consultation with my dentist. The cost will be $2,500.00, Is that a reasonable price?
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Glitter Star
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posted 09-19-2005 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by Toothbrush:
After reading all the great posts I am wondering why so many had a "final" impression done? I only had one impression for my invisalign. Is it normal to have several impressions done for invisalign?
My ortho did a first impreesion for his personal review. He wanted to look over them to make sure there weren't any problems we might incounter. This was done with a material that only needed a min to set. Then he called me back after he had a few days to review them. I went today for the final impressions which is done with a purple goo material and takes five mins to set. It wasn't bad but it took 2 tries on the tops and 3 tries on the bottums to get a good impression. But I was willing to do as many as he needed to be sure I didn't have to come back at a later date to do it all over again. My ortho is a perfectionist , that is most likely why he did so many tries. He said my clinchec should be back in about aweek. I am so excited.
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phyllis
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posted 09-20-2005 06:03 PM
I have just had all of my impressions and photos taken. my dentist is a perfectionist also which is a good thing. I had to go back 3 times for impressions, because I have a hard time with them and he wanted them perfect. Now I have to wait about a month for the "preview". This forum has been great since I knew next to nothing about them before. I know one woman who has them. I am in my 40's and had braces once before. My only problem is that I am a "grazer" and worry that I will need to become very disciplined about wearing them and only eating 3 squares. I eat at very random times and I snack a lot, and eat in the car a lot too. This will be a big change for me.
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Glitter Star
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posted 09-20-2005 07:11 PM
my ortho just did all his tries while I was there yesterday. I didn't want to come back again until my ClinCheck, So I said I wanted to just stay until he got a good impression. He also said his invisalign rep was coming in today so he was going to hold off sending all my stuff out to have him look at my impressions just to make sure he was happy with it.
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Pharmgirl
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posted 09-20-2005 10:01 PM
Hey, Phyllis. I too am a grazer AND eat in my car alot. But it's been OK so far. It does make me eat a little less often but there have been many times I've taken the aligners out without rinsing them and put them back in after I have a chance to rinsh & brush them out. No biggie.
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Sarah
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posted 09-21-2005 09:40 AM
Did anyone have bad teeth to begin with? Crowns or cavities?
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Glitter Star
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posted 09-21-2005 01:07 PM
well I had 2 gavitis and I ha dthem filled before starting the invisalign process.
My ortho called today and said that his invisalign rep said that my molds were perfect, so they are now sendng them out. I am so excited. Also he said his last invisalign client got he clincheck back in a week. Which was only a couple of days ago. So I may be getting mine back soon. He said they have a fast response from invisalign on average. I can't wait to see how long my treatment is going to be. I'll stay posted.
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Laura
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posted 09-22-2005 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by Sarah:
Did anyone have bad teeth to begin with? Crowns or cavities?
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Laura
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posted 09-22-2005 12:50 PM
Hi Sarah,I'm having Invisalign sometime soon. My ortho advised me to see a Periodentist first before beginning the process. I'm really glad I did as he said I should have a deep and thorough cleaning to prevent periodental gum disease - 2 x 1.5hr cleaning appts. I also have to have 2 crowns done before beginning the process.
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Jenny
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posted 09-22-2005 04:08 PM
Hi, could anyone suggest me a good orthodontist in the DC Metro area? Really appreciate your help.
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dani85
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posted 09-22-2005 09:02 PM
Hi there. Ok, so I just got my invisalign aligners yesterday (after waiting for what seemed like forever...) and I know that it says 1/14 on the aligners I'm currenty wearing. Does that mean I'll only have to wear 14 sets in total? Because that would only be about 7 months of Invisalign, which doesn't seem nearly long enough. Am I wrong? Sorry if this is a dumb question, but my orthodontist wasn't too clear on it. I might have to give him a call if I can't figure this out.
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Jay
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posted 09-23-2005 03:05 AM
I'd have thought your orthodontist would have been able to tell from the Clincheck how many aligners you needed. I always imagined the whole set were sent to the practice anyway...maybe not. Certainly sounds as though you only need 14...lucky you!! quote:
Originally posted by dani85:
Hi there. Ok, so I just got my invisalign aligners yesterday (after waiting for what seemed like forever...) and I know that it says 1/14 on the aligners I'm currenty wearing. Does that mean I'll only have to wear 14 sets in total? Because that would only be about 7 months of Invisalign, which doesn't seem nearly long enough. Am I wrong? Sorry if this is a dumb question, but my orthodontist wasn't too clear on it. I might have to give him a call if I can't figure this out.
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alissa
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posted 09-23-2005 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by dani85:
Hi there. Ok, so I just got my invisalign aligners yesterday (after waiting for what seemed like forever...) and I know that it says 1/14 on the aligners I'm currenty wearing. Does that mean I'll only have to wear 14 sets in total? Because that would only be about 7 months of Invisalign, which doesn't seem nearly long enough. Am I wrong? Sorry if this is a dumb question, but my orthodontist wasn't too clear on it. I might have to give him a call if I can't figure this out.
Me too!! I have only 10 sets for the bottom, and 24 for the top, and he says to change them every 2 weeks! Is that really enough time to change the teeth??And why 2 weeks instead of the 3 I always here?
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Kimbob
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posted 09-23-2005 04:17 PM
Changing aligners every 2 weeks is actually more common than every 3 weeks with Invisalign. The Invisalign Web site even cites the 2 week time frame. An individual ortho may recommend 3 weeks to some patients, and this would be based on the patient's particular case. You may be thinking of OrthoClear which recommends 3 week invervals. I am on aligner 4 of 46 on the bottom and 38 on the top, so you are fortunate if you only have 24 or fewer. It's not unusual for a patient to go through their first set of aligners and then to follow up with additional aligners for refinement, so don't be surprised if your treatment runs longer than you are currently anticipating. As for whether 2 weeks is enough time to move teeth, the teeth have generally moved into place within a week or so (assuming you're wearing the aligners the prescribed 22 or more hours per day). After the first week, the aligners hold the teeth in place, allowing the bone and tissue to recover and regenerate. I've been advised to be sure I get plenty of calcium and be vigilent about dental hygiene to facilitate the healing process.
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JB82
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posted 09-24-2005 10:27 PM
I just got my invisaligns yesterday (33 for the top, 20 for bottom).The removal of the appliance was difficult at first but I got use to it after the second try. It became easy to remove the following day. After reading this forum's comments/messages, I realized that my gum and tongue pain that I am experiencing now is normal (I'm assuming my bottom aligners are a little more rigid at the gumline compared to the top aligners). I think i'm going to try the dental wax and see if that works. I just have one question, do you guys experience pain in the back of your mouth--maybe ALL the farthest molars to the back? I need to know if this is normal or if it's my ingrown wisdom teeth that are causing me pain. My ortho didn't say I need to remove any teeth...initially?!?! I'm not in agonizing pain, I just feel "like ripping out my cheeks" annoyed!
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